Comments on: Coffee Talk: They Seem to be All The Rage These Days http://geekadelphia.com/2010/02/02/coffee-talk-they-seem-to-be-all-the-rage-these-days/ A Guide To Everything Geek In The City Of Brotherly Love Fri, 25 May 2012 02:50:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Joe Osborne http://geekadelphia.com/2010/02/02/coffee-talk-they-seem-to-be-all-the-rage-these-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7198 Joe Osborne Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:03:38 +0000 http://geekadelphia.com/?p=11294#comment-7198 @ Bianca We should do a charity event with the incentive that we'll make a hilarious video out of the gift. I'm down! @ Bianca We should do a charity event with the incentive that we’ll make a hilarious video out of the gift. I’m down!

]]> By: bianca http://geekadelphia.com/2010/02/02/coffee-talk-they-seem-to-be-all-the-rage-these-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7194 bianca Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:04:02 +0000 http://geekadelphia.com/?p=11294#comment-7194 HEY BOYS! I want an iPad simply so I can pretend it's a prop-sized iPhone and make ridiculous fake phonecalls... who wants to help make this happen? HEY BOYS! I want an iPad simply so I can pretend it’s a prop-sized iPhone and make ridiculous fake phonecalls… who wants to help make this happen?

]]> By: thesimplicity http://geekadelphia.com/2010/02/02/coffee-talk-they-seem-to-be-all-the-rage-these-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7170 thesimplicity Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:17:40 +0000 http://geekadelphia.com/?p=11294#comment-7170 I've been using a Thinkpad tablet for a few years now (as well as a Wacom tablet on my desktop) and I love it. There's something wonderful about having a device the size of a magazine that works like a digital journal. It's changed the way I work, especially for graphics work. That said: the iPad seems like a step backwards from the tablet computers that have been around for years. it's not pressure sensitive and it's built for fingertips instead of pens. Which is fine for a casual entertainment device (and Apple is positioning it as such), but I've been dreaming of having the OSX experience on a tablet for years. I'm really disappointed that we got a huge iPod touch instead of a true tablet. I’ve been using a Thinkpad tablet for a few years now (as well as a Wacom tablet on my desktop) and I love it. There’s something wonderful about having a device the size of a magazine that works like a digital journal. It’s changed the way I work, especially for graphics work. That said: the iPad seems like a step backwards from the tablet computers that have been around for years. it’s not pressure sensitive and it’s built for fingertips instead of pens. Which is fine for a casual entertainment device (and Apple is positioning it as such), but I’ve been dreaming of having the OSX experience on a tablet for years. I’m really disappointed that we got a huge iPod touch instead of a true tablet.

]]> By: Chris http://geekadelphia.com/2010/02/02/coffee-talk-they-seem-to-be-all-the-rage-these-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7168 Chris Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:45:07 +0000 http://geekadelphia.com/?p=11294#comment-7168 I think I like the idea of a tablet device more than I like the device itself. I think the original post said it kind of fits between a web enabled phone and a laptop computer/netbook. Does that space really warrant a whole new device in your life? I think its kind of overkill to own all 3. They're not really small enough to be convenient and they're not really powerful enough to do everything I'd want them to. Input interface is my biggest problem with it - a virtual keyboard is kind of a turnoff. I think there is a market out there for something like the iPad and I totally dig it from an aesthetic point of view, but I don't know if it would make me question how I lived without it. Then again I own a free phone with cricket service so I'm not exactly what you'd call plugged in. I think I like the idea of a tablet device more than I like the device itself. I think the original post said it kind of fits between a web enabled phone and a laptop computer/netbook. Does that space really warrant a whole new device in your life?

I think its kind of overkill to own all 3.

They’re not really small enough to be convenient and they’re not really powerful enough to do everything I’d want them to. Input interface is my biggest problem with it – a virtual keyboard is kind of a turnoff.

I think there is a market out there for something like the iPad and I totally dig it from an aesthetic point of view, but I don’t know if it would make me question how I lived without it. Then again I own a free phone with cricket service so I’m not exactly what you’d call plugged in.

]]> By: Joe Osborne http://geekadelphia.com/2010/02/02/coffee-talk-they-seem-to-be-all-the-rage-these-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7166 Joe Osborne Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:26:59 +0000 http://geekadelphia.com/?p=11294#comment-7166 @Dan: You do raise a good point with the upcoming HTML 5 and how it's probably going to change the whole web design game and I agree that Flash might not be such a big deal in the face of it. However, let's just hope HTML 5 doesn't take very long to catch on as it's gonna be an issue for the iPad until that time comes. Moving away from the iPad, what do you guys think of other tablet devices and where the tablet fits in, generally speaking? @Dan: You do raise a good point with the upcoming HTML 5 and how it’s probably going to change the whole web design game and I agree that Flash might not be such a big deal in the face of it. However, let’s just hope HTML 5 doesn’t take very long to catch on as it’s gonna be an issue for the iPad until that time comes.

Moving away from the iPad, what do you guys think of other tablet devices and where the tablet fits in, generally speaking?

]]> By: Chris http://geekadelphia.com/2010/02/02/coffee-talk-they-seem-to-be-all-the-rage-these-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7165 Chris Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:55:38 +0000 http://geekadelphia.com/?p=11294#comment-7165 Dan - I can tell that you're an Apple die hard and I don't want to start any type of flame war but I think a lot of your points are 1 sided. A lot of people (myself included) would argue the following: Whether or not you care for Flash, it is a fact that it constitutes a huge amount of content on the internet. Content you can't use on your iPad. Your hatred for cameras confuses me. How many people use their camera on their iphone? How many mobile uploads do you see going up on facebook? Youtube? With the wifi and 3g connectivity of the iPad you can't even video conference with it? For a device you're supposed to take with you everywhere...its pretty poor. A Camera in this day and age should be a no brainer. If your argument about USB connectivity is true then why sell a USB adapter for it? Maybe I just want to hook up a thumb drive so I can have more than 16gigs of storage for my media etc. 4:3 screen - The ipad is just as much a multimedia device as anything else. Can you read a book on a 16:9 screen? Absolutely. Simply crop the side or the bottom and add touch controls similar to a Nook. You don't even get hdmi out even though you can buy HD movies through itunes. As a consumer - I am not free to choose my 3g carrier. That was my only point. You have high hopes for it - and it will probably be successful - but its far from perfect. Dan – I can tell that you’re an Apple die hard and I don’t want to start any type of flame war but I think a lot of your points are 1 sided. A lot of people (myself included) would argue the following:

Whether or not you care for Flash, it is a fact that it constitutes a huge amount of content on the internet. Content you can’t use on your iPad.

Your hatred for cameras confuses me.
How many people use their camera on their iphone? How many mobile uploads do you see going up on facebook? Youtube? With the wifi and 3g connectivity of the iPad you can’t even video conference with it? For a device you’re supposed to take with you everywhere…its pretty poor. A Camera in this day and age should be a no brainer.

If your argument about USB connectivity is true then why sell a USB adapter for it? Maybe I just want to hook up a thumb drive so I can have more than 16gigs of storage for my media etc.

4:3 screen – The ipad is just as much a multimedia device as anything else. Can you read a book on a 16:9 screen? Absolutely. Simply crop the side or the bottom and add touch controls similar to a Nook. You don’t even get hdmi out even though you can buy HD movies through itunes.

As a consumer – I am not free to choose my 3g carrier. That was my only point.

You have high hopes for it – and it will probably be successful – but its far from perfect.

]]> By: Dan http://geekadelphia.com/2010/02/02/coffee-talk-they-seem-to-be-all-the-rage-these-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7164 Dan Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:12:37 +0000 http://geekadelphia.com/?p=11294#comment-7164 I will be waiting in line for my iPad day and date! Because if we have learned one thing from Apple; it is that they are great at deciding what would work best for the consumer and cutting away the fat. I remember when all you naysayers said the same things about the iPhone, now the iPhone has taken its place as the phone to own, and has conquered the smart phone market and most of us could not imagine life without it. For some of the points made earlier -No Flash Support- Flash is EXTREMELY BUGGY and causes quite a bit of instability in browsers and is a resource hog. Steve said this many times during the keynote that the device "just works" and letting Flash into the sandbox would make it less stable of a machine besides with HTML 5 around the corner, Flash will soon be an after thought. Apple is basically forcing people towards this open standard and away from Adobe because they can and why this might necessarily be far or the right thing they can do it. I don’t want to even imagine how many web designers had to redo the site because their iPhone toting CEO couldn’t see it. -No Camera- Why does every device have to have a camera in it? Sorry I really don't need another crappy camera in a device, thank you. Not only did they do this to save on costs which if you think about it a sub $500 Mac computer is almost unheard of. But have you thought of the vertical markets ie:Government and Schools where a camera would actually make the device not allowed in the establishment. I think Steve hit this price point because he wants this in the hands of the children and government and who needs another camera anyway? -No Multitasking Capability- This one has been on the Apple back burner for years for Iphone os and I think it will happen and soon. -You need adapters for everything- Well because if this thing had USB it would need drivers and drivers lead to instability. Once again Apple wants it to "Just work" I can't tell you how many times a wonky driver has taken down my entire pc. -4:3 Screen- Books are not long rectangles, they are about 4:3 not too mention the price for the widescreen LCD would have made their price point unattainable. I think this device is first, Apples entry into the E-reader market and second a media tablet. -Won’t work with NAME CARRIER HERE- There will be unlocked iPads not only that all you need is a mobile wifi and your good. Also did you see there was not contract needed and it was “pay as you go” Apple bent some elbows to get this deal, no contract is unheard of but the success of the Iphone has gave them so serious clout and AT&T would be lost without them. I think in a years time when iPad 2.0 comes out we will all wonder what a world was like without them. I will be waiting in line for my iPad day and date! Because if we have learned one thing from Apple; it is that they are great at deciding what would work best for the consumer and cutting away the fat. I remember when all you naysayers said the same things about the iPhone, now the iPhone has taken its place as the phone to own, and has conquered the smart phone market and most of us could not imagine life without it. For some of the points made earlier
-No Flash Support- Flash is EXTREMELY BUGGY and causes quite a bit of instability in browsers and is a resource hog. Steve said this many times during the keynote that the device “just works” and letting Flash into the sandbox would make it less stable of a machine besides with HTML 5 around the corner, Flash will soon be an after thought. Apple is basically forcing people towards this open standard and away from Adobe because they can and why this might necessarily be far or the right thing they can do it. I don’t want to even imagine how many web designers had to redo the site because their iPhone toting CEO couldn’t see it.
-No Camera- Why does every device have to have a camera in it? Sorry I really don’t need another crappy camera in a device, thank you. Not only did they do this to save on costs which if you think about it a sub $500 Mac computer is almost unheard of. But have you thought of the vertical markets ie:Government and Schools where a camera would actually make the device not allowed in the establishment. I think Steve hit this price point because he wants this in the hands of the children and government and who needs another camera anyway?
-No Multitasking Capability- This one has been on the Apple back burner for years for Iphone os and I think it will happen and soon.
-You need adapters for everything- Well because if this thing had USB it would need drivers and drivers lead to instability. Once again Apple wants it to “Just work” I can’t tell you how many times a wonky driver has taken down my entire pc.
-4:3 Screen- Books are not long rectangles, they are about 4:3 not too mention the price for the widescreen LCD would have made their price point unattainable. I think this device is first, Apples entry into the E-reader market and second a media tablet.
-Won’t work with NAME CARRIER HERE- There will be unlocked iPads not only that all you need is a mobile wifi and your good. Also did you see there was not contract needed and it was “pay as you go” Apple bent some elbows to get this deal, no contract is unheard of but the success of the Iphone has gave them so serious clout and AT&T would be lost without them.
I think in a years time when iPad 2.0 comes out we will all wonder what a world was like without them.

]]> By: Joe Osborne http://geekadelphia.com/2010/02/02/coffee-talk-they-seem-to-be-all-the-rage-these-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7163 Joe Osborne Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:08:07 +0000 http://geekadelphia.com/?p=11294#comment-7163 @Chris: all good points, but I'm more concerned with what it will do that your increasingly not-so-average can't. @Eric: elaborate, please? Haha. @Chris: all good points, but I’m more concerned with what it will do that your increasingly not-so-average can’t.

@Eric: elaborate, please? Haha.

]]> By: Eric http://geekadelphia.com/2010/02/02/coffee-talk-they-seem-to-be-all-the-rage-these-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7162 Eric Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:57:07 +0000 http://geekadelphia.com/?p=11294#comment-7162 iPAD = DO NOT WANT. iPAD = DO NOT WANT.

]]> By: Chris http://geekadelphia.com/2010/02/02/coffee-talk-they-seem-to-be-all-the-rage-these-days/comment-page-1/#comment-7161 Chris Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:12:03 +0000 http://geekadelphia.com/?p=11294#comment-7161 There was a post on Gizmodo a few days back about iPad dealbreakers which I thought were pretty interesting. - No Flash support - No Camera - No Multitasking capability - You need adapters for everything including USB connectivity - 4:3 screen - Won't work on T-Mobile 3G Are some of the highlights. I have to admit I was pretty impressed with the device itself and I imagine browsing the web on it is probably a very cool experience, but some of those items on the list are pretty bad. There was a post on Gizmodo a few days back about iPad dealbreakers which I thought were pretty interesting.

- No Flash support
- No Camera
- No Multitasking capability
- You need adapters for everything including USB connectivity
- 4:3 screen
- Won’t work on T-Mobile 3G

Are some of the highlights.

I have to admit I was pretty impressed with the device itself and I imagine browsing the web on it is probably a very cool experience, but some of those items on the list are pretty bad.

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